+On the Rust side, this is mainly apparent in the [Miri interpreter](https://github.com/rust-lang/miri/), which is a concrete realization of the "hypothetical" interpreter that I mentioned above.
+In fact, this is why I originally started working on Miri.
+Nowadays, its main purpose is to help unsafe code authors avoid UB, but for me personally, I find it equally important that it helps us think about the semantics of Rust and MIR in a different way.
+It also feeds back into the design of the UB rules by discovering patterns that people want or need to use but that are not currently accepted by Miri.
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+On the LLVM side, the main development in this area is [Alive](https://blog.regehr.org/archives/1722), a tool that can automatically validate[^validate] optimizations performed by LLVM.
+Alive has found [many bugs in LLVM optimizations](https://github.com/AliveToolkit/alive2/blob/master/BugList.md), and indeed much of the recent dialog with the LLVM community aimed at a more precise IR semantics is pushed by the people building Alive, lead by Nuno P. Lopes and John Regehr.
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+[^validate]: A note on terminology: "validating" an optimization means that given the program text before and after the optimization, the tool will try to prove that this particular transformation is correct. This is in contrast to "verifying" an optimization where a once-and-forall proof is carried out showing that the optimization will always perform a correct transformation. Verification gives a much stronger result, but is also extremely difficult to carry out, so validation is a great middle-ground that is still able to find plenty of bugs.
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+Progress on these specification efforts is slow, though, in particular when it turns out that [LLVM IR semantics should be changed](https://www.cs.utah.edu/~regehr/papers/undef-pldi17.pdf).
+I hope this post can raise awareness for the subtle problems optimizing compilers are facing, and convince some people that figuring out the specification of compiler IRs is an important and interesting problem to work on. :)
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+That's all I have for today, thanks for sticking with me!